Toulon fan wrote:It's a fake. And you know where's the scam here?
The time played by french international players during the six months that french players spent with France this season (World Cup+6 Nations...) is NOT counted here.
So, this table counts the time in clubs of all french players who're not international! Such a big deal![/size]
That's called propaganda, or disinformation. Or whatever bullshit.
Good point, the table should be adjusted to take into account player time at club.
Why? nobody is asserting that say, Montpellier, are not playing French internationals when they are available to them. Merely that they are not playing French players very much. Which they aren't. And which is the point.
And which, by the by, isn't really covered by French internationals being away.
As an aside Toulon lost around as many players to the world cup as we did. Just not French players. Is that propaganda too? Disinformation?
fourthirtythree wrote:
As an aside Toulon lost around as many players to the world cup as we did. Just not French players. Is that propaganda too? Disinformation?
Tillous-Borde, Michalak, Mermoz, Bastareaud, Guirado, Chiocci were at the World Cup...
Tillous and Michalak came back injuried and out for the season.
So, yes, disinformation and propaganda.
Toulon fan wrote:It's a fake. And you know where's the scam here?
The time played by french international players during the six months that french players spent with France this season (World Cup+6 Nations...) is NOT counted here.
So, this table counts the time in clubs of all french players who're not international! Such a big deal![/size]
That's called propaganda, or disinformation. Or whatever bullshit.
Good point, the table should be adjusted to take into account player time at club.
Why? nobody is asserting that say, Montpellier, are not playing French internationals when they are available to them. Merely that they are not playing French players very much. Which they aren't. And which is the point.
And which, by the by, isn't really covered by French internationals being away.
As an aside Toulon lost around as many players to the world cup as we did. Just not French players. Is that propaganda too? Disinformation?
Exactly, an adjusted table would allow for better comparison. I'm not syaing that the one provided isn't useful, I just want more detail.
"That was shiterarse coaches need to look at themselves this is as bad at is.beem with school. Items impeovrnkyb neefedc"
fourthirtythree wrote:
As an aside Toulon lost around as many players to the world cup as we did. Just not French players. Is that propaganda too? Disinformation?
Tillous-Borde, Michalak, Mermoz, Bastareaud, Guirado, Chiocci were at the World Cup...
Tillous and Michalak came back injuried and out for the season.
So, yes, disinformation and propaganda.
That's just a fault in your English: you did not lose as many French players as we lost Irish. You lost six French, round about a third of what we did. The elision is good English usage, I would have thought it translated directly into French also.
This is neither disinformation nor is it propaganda. I think your extreme defensiveness speaks for itself.
domhnallj wrote:
Exactly, an adjusted table would allow for better comparison. I'm not syaing that the one provided isn't useful, I just want more detail.
More detail could help explain why it's happening or not happening, it wouldn't change the fact that the raw data shows it is happening (or not happening).
fourthirtythree wrote:
More detail could help explain why it's happening or not happening, it wouldn't change the fact that the raw data shows it is happening (or not happening).
They are both raw data, just data presented in different ways. The devil with these things is what you want to know and what they want to show you. It would be simple enough to statistically model the effects of player presence or absence on minutes played in that league.
"That was shiterarse coaches need to look at themselves this is as bad at is.beem with school. Items impeovrnkyb neefedc"
Well that's the maddest end to a rugby match that I have ever seen, bar none. Racing won then Clermont won then Racing won by in the space of five seconds at the end of the 120 minutes. If you do anything this weekend, check out the last few minutes on youtube or wherever. You won't regret it.
VGE wrote:If someone can help to understand why Fofana's try is refused and the last one allowed in the same game by the same referee and the same TMO...
Carter had to see Barcelona, Canal+ paied billions for that.
Au revoir.
And most of all: do never question yourself! Keep on going!
Made Of Ale wrote:Well that's the maddest end to a rugby match that I have ever seen, bar none. Racing won then Clermont won then Racing won by in the space of five seconds at the end of the 120 minutes. If you do anything this weekend, check out the last few minutes on youtube or wherever. You won't regret it.
+1, +1. Totally agree, the most extraordinary finish to any competitive game ever played!
