Munster 2016-2017

[Laighin Break]

Surely Scannell and Ryan too?!

[ronk]

Who's injured?

[fourthirtythree]

Well Kleyn anyway (though Chisholm is back!). And when is Murray back?

That's a point though, I thought that like us they had a relatively clean bill of health. It's never perfect but...

[Golf Man]

Well Kleyn anyway (though Chisholm is back!). And when is Murray back?

That's a point though, I thought that like us they had a relatively clean bill of health. It's never perfect but...

Far from it

Kleyn and Foley are out for the rest of the season - Holland, Ryan, O Shea and Deysel are going to be the locks from now until end of season - Copeland and DOC could probably do a job but not ideal and and a Ryan injury away from a massive problem. Chisholm is not back playing - he is training. Cronin is just back training and will presumably hope to play this weekend.

Keatley and Sailli are injured and expected out for the QF - neither were likely to start but at least one and probably both were on the bench. Keatley out is an issue as Bleyendaal missed the last game. Murray is carrying an injury as well obviously, but hopefully wil be back - far from ideal in terms of preparation though

Kleyn is the biggest loss without doubt, but we re definitely close to major issues if any of J Ryan, D Ryan, Murray, Bleyendaal get injured (or don't make the QF)

[Cor. Ind.]

Well Kleyn anyway (though Chisholm is back!). And when is Murray back?

That's a point though, I thought that like us they had a relatively clean bill of health. It's never perfect but...

Far from it

Kleyn and Foley are out for the rest of the season - Holland, Ryan, O Shea and Deysel are going to be the locks from now until end of season - Copeland and DOC could probably do a job but not ideal and and a Ryan injury away from a massive problem. Chisholm is not back playing - he is training. Cronin is just back training and will presumably hope to play this weekend.

Keatley and Sailli are injured and expected out for the QF - neither were likely to start but at least one and probably both were on the bench. Keatley out is an issue as Bleyendaal missed the last game. Murray is carrying an injury as well obviously, but hopefully wil be back - far from ideal in terms of preparation though

Kleyn is the biggest loss without doubt, but we re definitely close to major issues if any of J Ryan, D Ryan, Murray, Bleyendaal get injured (or don't make the QF)

Don't forget Madigan - melter of rucks. DOC is the guy I'd back at lock. Same height as Billy, but far more dynamic.

We really need Cronin's scrummaging ability back for Toulouse: who have 6 top tier (if aging) front rowers.

It's between TOD & Oliver @ 7.

Could Earls play 13 to allow Zebo, Conway and Sweenmqn start in the b3?

With Keatley out either Johnson or Scannell will need to bench.

[Oldschoolsocks]

From a neighbouring forum:

From Chris Farrell's twitter feed today -

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2/2, with the investigation into a complaint. I confirm, contrary to many assumptions the associated allegations where not directed at me!

https://twitter.com/Farrell_C93

[munster#1]

Munster: Andrew Conway; Darren Sweetnam, Jaco Taute, Rory Scannell, Ronan O’Mahony; Tyler Bleyendaal, Duncan Williams; Dave Kilcoyne, Niall Scannell, John Ryan; Dave O’Callaghan, Billy Holland; Peter O’Mahony Capt., Tommy O’Donnell, Jack O’Donoghue.

Replacements: Rhys Marshall, James Cronin, Stephen Archer, Darren O’Shea, Conor Oliver, Angus Lloyd, David Johnston, Dan Goggin.

Strong looking team for Munster, with a lot of front line players starting.
This is a massive plus when looking to next week.

I would actually leave most of these players in situ for the qf for the minimum disruption.

I would bring Zebo in for ROM, and have earls on the bench as backline cover.

Ryan and stander will of course walk into the team in place of DOC and JOD.

Continuation is key imo.

[Cor. Ind.]

Munster: Andrew Conway; Darren Sweetnam, Jaco Taute, Rory Scannell, Ronan O’Mahony; Tyler Bleyendaal, Duncan Williams; Dave Kilcoyne, Niall Scannell, John Ryan; Dave O’Callaghan, Billy Holland; Peter O’Mahony Capt., Tommy O’Donnell, Jack O’Donoghue.

Replacements: Rhys Marshall, James Cronin, Stephen Archer, Darren O’Shea, Conor Oliver, Angus Lloyd, David Johnston, Dan Goggin.

Strong looking team for Munster, with a lot of front line players starting.
This is a massive plus when looking to next week.

I would actually leave most of these players in situ for the qf for the minimum disruption.

I would bring Zebo in for ROM, and have earls on the bench as backline cover.

Ryan and stander will of course walk into the team in place of DOC and JOD.

Continuation is key imo.

I can see Cronin starting if he goes well tmr. Much better scrummager than Kilcoyne and ST have some beasts upfront. Baille, Census, Steenkampf, Gilaraldino, Tolufua.

Earls and Zebo will def come in for ROM and I would hope Scannell, rather than Sweetnam or Conway. Much better defensively, and this game will all be about big hits.

Best backline in Ireland?

9 Murray
10 Tyler
11 Zebo
12 Jaco
13 Earls
14 Sweetnam
15 Conway

[Oldschoolsocks]

Wouldn't be happy with Earls at 13 myself

[Cor. Ind.]

The only time I ever saw Earls play topline 13 was back when JDV was at 12 - e.g. HEC QF v Os 2009.

Taute is a very similar player to JDV. Not great pace, but great hands (l & r) and phenomenonal tackler.

[Dave Cahill]

The only time I ever saw Earls play topline 13 was back when JDV was at 12 - e.g. HEC QF v Os 2009.

Taute is a very similar player to JDV. Not great pace, but great hands (l & r) and phenomenonal tackler.

JDV arrived the following season

[paddyor]

The only time I ever saw Earls play topline 13 was back when JDV was at 12 - e.g. HEC QF v Os 2009.

Taute is a very similar player to JDV. Not great pace, but great hands (l & r) and phenomenonal tackler.

He played outside Henshaw(who's better than Taute and maybe as good as or better than JDV) 2 years ago at the RWC, looked a long way off topline.

[ronk]

Earls lived off offloads from Mafi way back when. It worked well as a ploy but it wasn't enough to justify some of the hype.

He's been playing really well lately.

[Oldschoolsocks]

Don't get me wrong, he's a fine wing - not a great centre though.

[fourthirtythree]

The only time I ever saw Earls play topline 13 was back when JDV was at 12 - e.g. HEC QF v Os 2009.

Taute is a very similar player to JDV. Not great pace, but great hands (l & r) and phenomenonal tackler.

He played outside Henshaw(who's better than Taute and maybe as good as or better than JDV) 2 years ago at the RWC, looked a long way off topline.

Henshaw has never thrown as beautiful a try scoring pass for Leinster as I saw JDV float perfectly for an on rushing Drico in the RDS. #vision

[Dave Cahill]

The only time I ever saw Earls play topline 13 was back when JDV was at 12 - e.g. HEC QF v Os 2009.

Taute is a very similar player to JDV. Not great pace, but great hands (l & r) and phenomenonal tackler.

He played outside Henshaw(who's better than Taute and maybe as good as or better than JDV) 2 years ago at the RWC, looked a long way off topline.

Henshaw has never thrown as beautiful a try scoring pass for Leinster as I saw JDV float perfectly for an on rushing Drico in the RDS. #vision

I think you should have gone with #aisling as that can mean dream or vision - because Drico scored by drifting outside DeVilliars onto a pass from Sexton and Horgan scored by intercepting a pass from Warwick intended for DeVilliars

[fourthirtythree]

Ha! Memory is plastic. I stuck the two together. It's a few years ago.

It was the Warwick pass that was a beaut.

Anyway that game clouds my opinion of de Villiers.

[Dave Cahill]

He was dreadful that day alright - I believe Franno called him a Harvey Norman player afterwards, which was many NH rugby fans introduction to the term!

[offshorerules]

Munster: Andrew Conway; Darren Sweetnam, Jaco Taute, Rory Scannell, Ronan O’Mahony; Tyler Bleyendaal, Duncan Williams; Dave Kilcoyne, Niall Scannell, John Ryan; Dave O’Callaghan, Billy Holland; Peter O’Mahony Capt., Tommy O’Donnell, Jack O’Donoghue.

Replacements: Rhys Marshall, James Cronin, Stephen Archer, Darren O’Shea, Conor Oliver, Angus Lloyd, David Johnston, Dan Goggin.

Strong looking team for Munster, with a lot of front line players starting.
This is a massive plus when looking to next week.

I would actually leave most of these players in situ for the qf for the minimum disruption.

I would bring Zebo in for ROM, and have earls on the bench as backline cover.

Ryan and stander will of course walk into the team in place of DOC and JOD.

Continuation is key imo.

I can see Cronin starting if he goes well tmr. Much better scrummager than Kilcoyne and ST have some beasts upfront. Baille, Census, Steenkampf, Gilaraldino, Tolufua.

Earls and Zebo will def come in for ROM and I would hope Scannell, rather than Sweetnam or Conway. Much better defensively, and this game will all be about big hits.

Best backline in Ireland?

9 Murray
10 Tyler
11 Zebo
12 Jaco
13 Earls
14 Sweetnam
15 Conway

No, not even close. For example is there a position Zebo hasn't been chased down from behind from this year?

[Dave Cahill]

Donnacha Ryan joining Racing? Is that true?