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munster#1 wrote:I will never begrudge any player who becomes Irish qualified through the residency rule.
We like all nations must play within the rules, and we do so.
But I really hope that the time is extended soon. The potential of seeing an Irish team that contains Marshall, Kleyn, Quinn Roux, stander, jgp, Tyler, Aki and Lowe is not beyond the realms of possibility, and most if not all of those will become capped Irish internationals.
We could add more to that list or change players, and I'm sure others will, which is a real shame. And is something that the Irish have been slagging the all blacks off about for years, and more recently the English.
If the current trend does not come to an end, then international rugby teams will be no more than big clubs, buying players to allow them to compete.
jezzer wrote:munster#1 wrote:I will never begrudge any player who becomes Irish qualified through the residency rule.
We like all nations must play within the rules, and we do so.
But I really hope that the time is extended soon. The potential of seeing an Irish team that contains Marshall, Kleyn, Quinn Roux, stander, jgp, Tyler, Aki and Lowe is not beyond the realms of possibility, and most if not all of those will become capped Irish internationals.
We could add more to that list or change players, and I'm sure others will, which is a real shame. And is something that the Irish have been slagging the all blacks off about for years, and more recently the English.
If the current trend does not come to an end, then international rugby teams will be no more than big clubs, buying players to allow them to compete.
Seriously doubt we would ever see an Irish team with that many imports played on the field at once, but I still agree with your overall point. Needs to happen soon for credibility to stay in test rugby.
johng wrote:That means a rush to sign players before the end of this year. James Lowe could be IQ (for example) Munster could sign a tight head from super rugby or Currie cup. (for example) who would be IQ by 2020.
Be interesting to see which country's teams sign projects this year.
cormac wrote:Wondering what happens in the following scenario:
James Lowe joins Leinster in October/November 2017 (whenever he finishes up with Tasman). This will make him eligible to play for Ireland in the Autumn Internationals in 2020, just before the new rules come in. He decides to declare for Ireland and his form warrants a call-up but he picks up an injury and can't play in those games. So, if he fails to make his debut before Jan 1 2021, does he then have to wait another two years to be eligible again?
johng wrote:cormac wrote:Wondering what happens in the following scenario:
James Lowe joins Leinster in October/November 2017 (whenever he finishes up with Tasman). This will make him eligible to play for Ireland in the Autumn Internationals in 2020, just before the new rules come in. He decides to declare for Ireland and his form warrants a call-up but he picks up an injury and can't play in those games. So, if he fails to make his debut before Jan 1 2021, does he then have to wait another two years to be eligible again?
Once you are eligible you are eligible surely?
simonokeeffe wrote:johng wrote:That means a rush to sign players before the end of this year. James Lowe could be IQ (for example) Munster could sign a tight head from super rugby or Currie cup. (for example) who would be IQ by 2020.
Be interesting to see which country's teams sign projects this year.
Edinburgh will sign 10![]()
deadline seems a bit far but am guessing it was under auspices of entirely clean slate so to speak (ie 3 years and a bit from now)/compromise
trying to dig up a list of designated 2nd teams too re the u20s change
simonokeeffe wrote:Chapeau Neil, thought Boks used SA A but that explains why Murray Kinsella said George McGuigan is still IQ
@Cormac I thought it was 3 years for all players who sign/move before 2020? or am I reading that wrong?
neill_m wrote:simonokeeffe wrote:Chapeau Neil, thought Boks used SA A but that explains why Murray Kinsella said George McGuigan is still IQ
@Cormac I thought it was 3 years for all players who sign/move before 2020? or am I reading that wrong?
It's not 100% clear. Will a player signing for 18/19 be IQ'd in 3 or 5 yrs?
simonokeeffe wrote:neill_m wrote:simonokeeffe wrote:Chapeau Neil, thought Boks used SA A but that explains why Murray Kinsella said George McGuigan is still IQ
@Cormac I thought it was 3 years for all players who sign/move before 2020? or am I reading that wrong?
It's not 100% clear. Will a player signing for 18/19 be IQ'd in 3 or 5 yrs?
coulda sworn it was 3 years for anyone who signs before 2021
simonokeeffe wrote:neill_m wrote:simonokeeffe wrote:Chapeau Neil, thought Boks used SA A but that explains why Murray Kinsella said George McGuigan is still IQ
@Cormac I thought it was 3 years for all players who sign/move before 2020? or am I reading that wrong?
It's not 100% clear. Will a player signing for 18/19 be IQ'd in 3 or 5 yrs?
coulda sworn it was 3 years for anyone who signs before 2021
Fireworks wrote:Is there a chance that this might make the situation worse with some like France and NZ just trawling up lots of guys at a younger age so the 5 years is not an issue as it will take them that long to develop.
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