Academy 2016/2017

[johng]

Loan deal to cover his cousin doncha moving to racing.

[mildlyinterested]

the only time he will wear red is for the lions in 4 years

[simonokeeffe]

Loan deal to cover his cousin doncha moving to racing.

Dont you dare

[El Diablo]

James Ryan getting more gametime before the summer tour today for Munster Development against Ireland u20, starting 5.

If he is going on the Japan tour it is a bit of a kick in the nuts to all the other 2nd rows that have been scraping for provincial shirts all year while he has been in the gym rehabing.

[Leinster Lout]

James Ryan getting more gametime before the summer tour today for Munster Development against Ireland u20, starting 5.

If he is going on the Japan tour it is a bit of a kick in the nuts to all the other 2nd rows that have been scraping for provincial shirts all year while he has been in the gym rehabing.

On that basis, no promising young player would ever get a shot. The reality is that he's our best second row prospect in a long, long time in a position where Ireland are now weakest. It's a perfect opportunity to blood him in a senior set-up against opposition where is unlikely to receive a traumatic introduction to senior international rugby a la Mathew Tait. No-brainer for me.

[riocard911]

James Ryan getting more gametime before the summer tour today for Munster Development against Ireland u20, starting 5.

If he is going on the Japan tour it is a bit of a kick in the nuts to all the other 2nd rows that have been scraping for provincial shirts all year while he has been in the gym rehabing.

On that basis, no promising young player would ever get a shot. The reality is that he's our best second row prospect in a long, long time in a position where Ireland are now weakest. It's a perfect opportunity to blood him in a senior set-up against opposition where is unlikely to receive a traumatic introduction to senior international rugby a la Mathew Tait. No-brainer for me.

+1. He's potentially Ireland's Itoje and as such more likely to be appearing at RWC 2019 than his aging Munster namesake Donncha.

[mildlyinterested]

Heard Charlie Rock was moving to Lansdowne for next season.

[neiliog93]

He's not Ireland's Itojé. Itjoé is only 18 months older and is a naturally bigger (not taller), more powerful, more explosive athlete. Ryan is a clever player, a line-out operator and a leader, with good mobility, game awareness and ball skills. But he will never have the pure physical impact of Itojé, as so few do.

[simonokeeffe]

If other second rows dodnt make a case for themselves or take the opportunity then thats on them

[dropkick]

He's not Ireland's Itojé. Itjoé is only 18 months older and is a naturally bigger (not taller), more powerful, more explosive athlete. Ryan is a clever player, a line-out operator and a leader, with good mobility, game awareness and ball skills. But he will never have the pure physical impact of Itojé, as so few do.

Think you might be underestimating Ryan there a bit in terms of his physicality. One of the things that struck me about him last year was his speed off the mark. His acceleration is very impressive and allowed him score tries and make crucial tackles.


The English system will have their players a few years ahead of us in terms of conditioning, size etc.

[mildlyinterested]

Leinster based players in recent Ireland u20 squad:

Prop
Greg McGrath(Lansdowne)
Rory Mulvihill(UCD)
Charlie Connolly(DUFC)

Hooker
Tadgh McElroy(Lansdowne)
Ronan Kelleher(UCD) - u19

Lock
Jack Regan(UCD)
Cormac Daly(Navan) - u19

Backrow
Paul Boyle(Lansdowne)

Outhalf
Conor Dean(St. Marys) - u19

Centre
Ciaran Frawley(UCD)
Gavin Mullin(UCD)
Sean O'Brien(Clontarf) - u19

[the spoofer]

Leinster based players in recent Ireland u20 squad:

Prop
Greg McGrath(Lansdowne)
Rory Mulvihill(UCD)
Charlie Connolly(DUFC)

Hooker
Tadgh McElroy(Lansdowne)
Ronan Kelleher(UCD) - u19

Lock
Jack Regan(UCD)
Cormac Daly(Navan) - u19

Backrow
Paul Boyle(Lansdowne)

Outhalf
Conor Dean(St. Marys) - u19

Centre
Ciaran Frawley(UCD)
Gavin Mullin(UCD)
Sean O'Brien(Clontarf) - u19

Is Sean O'Brien from Mullingar? Quite a few Club players in there.

[mildlyinterested]

Leinster based players in recent Ireland u20 squad:

Prop
Greg McGrath(Lansdowne)
Rory Mulvihill(UCD)
Charlie Connolly(DUFC)

Hooker
Tadgh McElroy(Lansdowne)
Ronan Kelleher(UCD) - u19

Lock
Jack Regan(UCD)
Cormac Daly(Navan) - u19

Backrow
Paul Boyle(Lansdowne)

Outhalf
Conor Dean(St. Marys) - u19

Centre
Ciaran Frawley(UCD)
Gavin Mullin(UCD)
Sean O'Brien(Clontarf) - u19

Is Sean O'Brien from Mullingar? Quite a few Club players in there.

Yeah, younger brother of academy centre Conor'O'Brien.

McGrath, McElroy, Regan, Daly, Boyle, Frawley and O'Brien ex-club players.

None of whom are expected to make the academy this summer.

[mildlyinterested]

U20 highlights, but really just watch it to see James Ryan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2yeZnm-q8g

[mildlyinterested]

So Andrew Porter, James Ryan, Joey Carbery and Rory O'Loughlin all made Ireland squad for Japan tour.

[riocard911]

So Andrew Porter, James Ryan, Joey Carbery and Rory O'Loughlin all made Ireland squad for Japan tour.

Iontach!!!

[mildlyinterested]

The following players graduated from the academy yesterday:

Peter Dooley(LH Prop)
Ross Molony(Second Row)
Peadar Timmins(Backrow)
Nick McCarthy(Scrumhalf)
Ross Byrne(Outhalf)
Tom Daly(Centre)
Rory O'Loughlin(Centre/Wing)
Adam Byrne(Wing)

[the spoofer]

The following players graduated from the academy yesterday:

Peter Dooley(LH Prop)
Ross Molony(Second Row)
Peadar Timmins(Backrow)
Nick McCarthy(Scrumhalf)
Ross Byrne(Outhalf)
Tom Daly(Centre)
Rory O'Loughlin(Centre/Wing)
Adam Byrne(Wing)

Did Joey Carbery not graduate in this group too?

[CiaranIrl]

The following players graduated from the academy yesterday:

Peter Dooley(LH Prop)
Ross Molony(Second Row)
Peadar Timmins(Backrow)
Nick McCarthy(Scrumhalf)
Ross Byrne(Outhalf)
Tom Daly(Centre)
Rory O'Loughlin(Centre/Wing)
Adam Byrne(Wing)

Pretty difficult to see how Tinmins could forge a career at Leinster to be honest. Not due to ability, but I just can't see how he will get enough gametime to develop further.

[mildlyinterested]

The following players graduated from the academy yesterday:

Peter Dooley(LH Prop)
Ross Molony(Second Row)
Peadar Timmins(Backrow)
Nick McCarthy(Scrumhalf)
Ross Byrne(Outhalf)
Tom Daly(Centre)
Rory O'Loughlin(Centre/Wing)
Adam Byrne(Wing)

Did Joey Carbery not graduate in this group too?

Difference between graduating academy program and moving to a senior contract.