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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby fourthirtythree » August 4th, 2017, 12:21 am

ronk wrote:All thing considered, the Pro 14 seem to be managing a complex reorganisation at a very late stage far better the the Prem managesddriving the switch from the Heineken Cup.


Seems so alright. Though to be fair it isn't a hostile takeover designed as a power grab by some of the clubs in the competition. The ability to arrange and negotiate honestly does wonders for organisational preparations.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby TerenureJim » August 4th, 2017, 7:54 am

blockhead wrote:halfpenny joins scarlets on dual contract


Squad strength throughout the league has remained quite decent despite the money on offer in the prem and top14 yep the scots and Welsh have had issues and the Italians too but of a different kind but there's been no major flight of the wild geese type scenarios which has to be commended
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby blockhead » August 4th, 2017, 8:12 am

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blockhead wrote:halfpenny joins scarlets on dual contract


Squad strength throughout the league has remained quite decent despite the money on offer in the prem and top14 yep the scots and Welsh have had issues and the Italians too but of a different kind but there's been no major flight of the wild geese type scenarios which has to be commended


True, and the coaching tickets for some of the clubs are of a higher profile than previously. Cockers at edinburgh, Keane at connacht, bradley at zebre, jackman at dragons, gibbs at ulster, lancaster here, rennie at glasgow. Impressive.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby Dave Cahill » August 4th, 2017, 11:12 am

blockhead wrote:
TerenureJim wrote:
blockhead wrote:halfpenny joins scarlets on dual contract


Squad strength throughout the league has remained quite decent despite the money on offer in the prem and top14 yep the scots and Welsh have had issues and the Italians too but of a different kind but there's been no major flight of the wild geese type scenarios which has to be commended


True, and the coaching tickets for some of the clubs are of a higher profile than previously. Cockers at edinburgh, Keane at connacht, bradley at zebre, jackman at dragons, gibbs at ulster, lancaster here, rennie at glasgow. Impressive.


Was going to post on this but you beat me to it - whilst some excellent players have come into the Pro12 over the close season, the coaching lineup is what is really exciting
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby John23 » August 4th, 2017, 4:04 pm

Irish Times reporting that Ulster will host the Cheetahs on the 1st of September.

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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby RavenhillRaider » August 4th, 2017, 4:31 pm

Ulster selling tickets for their opener vs the cheetahs.

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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby johng » August 4th, 2017, 4:45 pm

Orange free state. Not 3 words you would normally put together in Ulster.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby johng » August 4th, 2017, 4:48 pm

That also means that Ulster will have Ospreys, Glasgow, Treviso Cardiff either 2 home 2 away or 1 home 3 away.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby Dave Cahill » August 4th, 2017, 4:54 pm

johng wrote:Orange free state. Not 3 words you would normally put together in Ulster.


I dunno, it hasn't been the Orange Free State for over 20 years and they do live in the past so...
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby leinster80 » August 4th, 2017, 5:59 pm

So can you only accumulate points within your conference or are points given for the 7 games against the other conference (and the bonus league derby games)?
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby Dave Cahill » August 4th, 2017, 7:02 pm

leinster80 wrote:So can you only accumulate points within your conference or are points given for the 7 games against the other conference (and the bonus league derby games)?


Points for every game in and out of conference
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby johng » August 4th, 2017, 7:07 pm

Wales online. Not the most reliable source but......

OPENING GUINNESS PRO14 FIXTURES

September 1-2

Cardiff Blues v Edinburgh

Connacht v Glasgow

Dragons v Leinster

Munster v Treviso

Ospreys v Zebre

Scarlets v Southern Kings

Ulster v Toyota Cheetahs

September 8-9

Connacht v Southern Kings

Edinburgh v Dragons

Glasgow v Ospreys

Leinster v Cardiff Blues

Munster v Toyota Cheetahs

Treviso v Ulster

Zebre v Scarlets

September 15-16

Cardiff Blues v Glasgow

Dragons v Connacht

Edinburgh v Treviso

Ospreys v Munster

Southern Kings v Leinster

Toyota Cheetahs v Zebre

Ulster v Scarlets
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby johng » August 4th, 2017, 7:12 pm

One out of conference game for us v Cardiff.

Means we will be 2 home & 2 away against Glasgow, Ospreys, Zebre, Cheetahs.

Hoping for Ospreys & Glasgow at home.

Edit. Sorry. For some reason I read cardiff as an away game.

We will be 3 away and 1 home v those teams
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby deco » August 4th, 2017, 9:20 pm

We'll be updating the Leinster Fixtures/Results (google) calendar for the coming season again.....including stadium maps/locations:

https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=q6l5ofkmieff52jjc6nuor4vlc@group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Europe/Dublin

,....edit for anyone using Outlook, this is how you import/sync with your Outlook calander......

https://support.office.com/en-ie/article/See-your-Google-Calendar-in-Outlook-c1dab514-0ad4-4811-824a-7d02c5e77126
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby Peg Leg » August 7th, 2017, 9:04 am

How is the pro14 move for the SA teams going to affect current and potential sponsors for the teams? Do they struggle for local sponsorship due to the decrease in SA exposure? Or become a more attractive proposition to international brands with a foothold/interest in Europe?
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby Peg Leg » August 7th, 2017, 9:05 am

The current FSC sponsorship roster.Image
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby The Doc » August 9th, 2017, 9:18 am

Peg Leg wrote:How is the pro14 move for the SA teams going to affect current and potential sponsors for the teams? Do they struggle for local sponsorship due to the decrease in SA exposure? Or become a more attractive proposition to international brands with a foothold/interest in Europe?


Any journo I've heard talking about it say that there is a lot of interest in SA - that these 2 aren't the only teams interested and that the supporters are actually very positive about it. The games will be watchable unlike the current comp.

Over time - I suspect there could be potential for increasing sponsorship and TV revenue - assuming the comp is engaging
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby dropkick » August 9th, 2017, 10:00 am

The Doc wrote:
Peg Leg wrote:How is the pro14 move for the SA teams going to affect current and potential sponsors for the teams? Do they struggle for local sponsorship due to the decrease in SA exposure? Or become a more attractive proposition to international brands with a foothold/interest in Europe?


Any journo I've heard talking about it say that there is a lot of interest in SA - that these 2 aren't the only teams interested and that the supporters are actually very positive about it. The games will be watchable unlike the current comp.

Over time - I suspect there could be potential for increasing sponsorship and TV revenue - assuming the comp is engaging



I would say one of the things that's killing super rugby is the different timezones. It was never talked about much in the past because everything else more than made up for it but with the overall product after declining so much, it's now a big issue.


I'd imagine the TV audiences will be good unless the kings and cheetahs do a Treviso/Zebre impression. There's also a big community of South Africans in Europe who might tune in.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby kermischocolate » August 9th, 2017, 12:54 pm

Very odd fixtures. Glasgow only have 3 home games in 2018. Also what happened to all games in SA will be on a Saturday?
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

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