I think the point jimbobjoe is making is that the signposts are in both English and Irish, just as the signs in the airport are.Oldschool wrote:Well apart from having a good sense of direction, allied to the where the sun is in the sky, an accurate watch and a sextant what else would I need.jimbobjoe wrote:And what did you reference them against?
There is a datum point? visible from where I live.
They're marked on ordinance survey maps.
My theodolite comes in handy too.
The signposts in English (which thankfully most of them are) help too.
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I knew he was being pedantic hence my reply.TheBear wrote:I think the point jimbobjoe is making is that the signposts are in both English and Irish, just as the signs in the airport are.Oldschool wrote:Well apart from having a good sense of direction, allied to the where the sun is in the sky, an accurate watch and a sextant what else would I need.jimbobjoe wrote:And what did you reference them against?
There is a datum point? visible from where I live.
They're marked on ordinance survey maps.
My theodolite comes in handy too.
The signposts in English (which thankfully most of them are) help too.
Thanks for the interpretation into English.
But not at the same time in the airport.
BTW The instructions share the same screen sequentially.
So only available in one language at any one time.
Ergo most users have to wait until the English version is displayed.
Not to mention that the fluent Irish speakers are fluent in English too but sure who cares leaves us waiting.
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So in truth OS your problem with the signs is that they operate sequentially and not the Irish language itself? That's a much more reasonable and valid complaint - you should have said that originally.
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For flips sake don't start a language fight down there as well as it is bad enough up here.Oldschool wrote:Dublin Airport and Automatic Passport Machines.
Signs in Irish.
Hellloooo - Dublin is an international airport.
Most of the indigenous population don't speak Irish (let's not sliit hairs)and the visiting foreigners definitely don't.
Most of them will have a working knowledge of English.
These are customers - Custoner comes first anyone.
Anyway every international airport I have been in has both the national language and English, Canada sort of breaks the rules as they don't know whether they speak English or French.
As for automatic passport machines they are great as long as you take your glasses off.
Dublin now is one of the most efficient airports I use, as far as efficiency of security, baggage/check in and signage goes it is right up there with Dubai qnd Singapore in my view and way ahead of the vast majority of airports worldwide. Sometimes you just don't notice something on your own doorstep is as good as it is.
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That's fair. I was annoyed at the Passport machine issue because I thought it could be easily solved, but realistically I was still able to get through arrivals very quickly, and it's very very rare that I'd be delayed at Dublin airport.
That reminds me of my last trip to Charles De Gaulle. A 20 minute taxi, a long walk around the airport, chaos at baggage reclaim, and another long walk to the RER. That was actually quite smooth compared to other issues I've had there, just took ages. It's the most bizarrely laid out and sign posted airport that I've ever had the misfortune of being in.
That reminds me of my last trip to Charles De Gaulle. A 20 minute taxi, a long walk around the airport, chaos at baggage reclaim, and another long walk to the RER. That was actually quite smooth compared to other issues I've had there, just took ages. It's the most bizarrely laid out and sign posted airport that I've ever had the misfortune of being in.
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Last time I flew through Orly, I thought there was a mistake when a sign said there was a 1 hour, 45 minute wait to get through security.LeRouxIsPHat wrote:That's fair. I was annoyed at the Passport machine issue because I thought it could be easily solved, but realistically I was still able to get through arrivals very quickly, and it's very very rare that I'd be delayed at Dublin airport.
That reminds me of my last trip to Charles De Gaulle. A 20 minute taxi, a long walk around the airport, chaos at baggage reclaim, and another long walk to the RER. That was actually quite smooth compared to other issues I've had there, just took ages. It's the most bizarrely laid out and sign posted airport that I've ever had the misfortune of being in.
Unfortunately, it was not a mistake.
Heavy words are so lightly thrown
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In truth what I should have said is that my problem is with the numbskulls who think it's ok to push the Irish language onto me at ever possible opportunity they get without thinking true the consequences for me and the many like me.jimbobjoe wrote:So in truth OS your problem with the signs is that they operate sequentially and not the Irish language itself? That's a much more reasonable and valid complaint - you should have said that originally.
IE I do have have a problem with the Irish language.
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I believe there is always room for improvement.rooster wrote:For flips sake don't start a language fight down there as well as it is bad enough up here.Oldschool wrote:Dublin Airport and Automatic Passport Machines.
Signs in Irish.
Hellloooo - Dublin is an international airport.
Most of the indigenous population don't speak Irish (let's not sliit hairs)and the visiting foreigners definitely don't.
Most of them will have a working knowledge of English.
These are customers - Custoner comes first anyone.
Anyway every international airport I have been in has both the national language and English, Canada sort of breaks the rules as they don't know whether they speak English or French.
As for automatic passport machines they are great as long as you take your glasses off.
Dublin now is one of the most efficient airports I use, as far as efficiency of security, baggage/check in and signage goes it is right up there with Dubai qnd Singapore in my view and way ahead of the vast majority of airports worldwide. Sometimes you just don't notice something on your own doorstep is as good as it is.
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The walk from terminal 2 to terminal 1 is something that needs sorting, will be interesting how they integrate the new runway as well but at present is is still up there with the best around for hassle free travelOldschool wrote:I believe there is always room for improvement.rooster wrote:For flips sake don't start a language fight down there as well as it is bad enough up here.Oldschool wrote:Dublin Airport and Automatic Passport Machines.
Signs in Irish.
Hellloooo - Dublin is an international airport.
Most of the indigenous population don't speak Irish (let's not sliit hairs)and the visiting foreigners definitely don't.
Most of them will have a working knowledge of English.
These are customers - Custoner comes first anyone.
Anyway every international airport I have been in has both the national language and English, Canada sort of breaks the rules as they don't know whether they speak English or French.
As for automatic passport machines they are great as long as you take your glasses off.
Dublin now is one of the most efficient airports I use, as far as efficiency of security, baggage/check in and signage goes it is right up there with Dubai qnd Singapore in my view and way ahead of the vast majority of airports worldwide. Sometimes you just don't notice something on your own doorstep is as good as it is.
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It's mad. You spend 15mins driving to the runway on the plane. get a nice your of the airportLeRouxIsPHat wrote:That's fair. I was annoyed at the Passport machine issue because I thought it could be easily solved, but realistically I was still able to get through arrivals very quickly, and it's very very rare that I'd be delayed at Dublin airport.
That reminds me of my last trip to Charles De Gaulle. A 20 minute taxi, a long walk around the airport, chaos at baggage reclaim, and another long walk to the RER. That was actually quite smooth compared to other issues I've had there, just took ages. It's the most bizarrely laid out and sign posted airport that I've ever had the misfortune of being in.
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How do you manage in countries where English isn't one of their official languages?Oldschool wrote:Well apart from having a good sense of direction, allied to the where the sun is in the sky, an accurate watch and a sextant what else would I need.jimbobjoe wrote:And what did you reference them against?Oldschool wrote: Maps, no problem. They were in English mind you.
There is a datum point? visible from where I live.
They're marked on ordinance survey maps.
My theodolite comes in handy too.
The signposts in English (which thankfully most of them are) help too.
And how do people push the Irish language onto you? And sure even if they did, you do know the english language was pushed on us in the first place?
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How do I manage?
Well English being my first language, given its' worldwide use, is a huge advantage.
I also have a working knowledge of French and German, both of which I have used, still use and find more useful than Irish.
There it is - The Irish language has no practical use and is a financial drain on our economic well being.
Well English being my first language, given its' worldwide use, is a huge advantage.
I also have a working knowledge of French and German, both of which I have used, still use and find more useful than Irish.
There it is - The Irish language has no practical use and is a financial drain on our economic well being.
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Ah yeah, let's just homogenise the whole planet.. that's always worked out to be a great idea
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There's a lot of other things with no practical use either - literature, rugby, music and more. Let's eliminate all of those while we're at it.
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Yes but if the use of Irish in Ireland is such a pain to you, surely in countries where English (and French and German) aren't main languages, getting around is unbearably inconvenient? Hopefully you won't be in Bilbao this weekend!Oldschool wrote:How do I manage?
Well English being my first language, given its' worldwide use, is a huge advantage.
I also have a working knowledge of French and German, both of which I have used, still use and find more useful than Irish.
There it is - The Irish language has no practical use and is a financial drain on our economic well being.
Yes let's get rid of everything that doesn't have a practical use for you. What's the practical use of rugby?
FYI - I, and plenty of other people, have used and still use Irish.
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It would appear I've touched a nerve.
Unfortunately the wrong nerve, it's the people organising the automation of the passport system in Dublin airport whose nerve needs to be touched.
Anyway it being the weekend that's in it, hopefully you'll all enjoy the occasion, be you here in Bilbao or elsewhere.
Ola!
C'mon Leinster.
Unfortunately the wrong nerve, it's the people organising the automation of the passport system in Dublin airport whose nerve needs to be touched.
Anyway it being the weekend that's in it, hopefully you'll all enjoy the occasion, be you here in Bilbao or elsewhere.
Ola!
C'mon Leinster.
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I used the automatic machines in March and never even noticed it was in Irish, and my Irish is not very extensive at all, in fact I couldn't string a sentence together now.Oldschool wrote:It would appear I've touched a nerve.
Unfortunately the wrong nerve, it's the people organising the automation of the passport system in Dublin airport whose nerve needs to be touched.
Anyway it being the weekend that's in it, hopefully you'll all enjoy the occasion, be you here in Bilbao or elsewhere.
Ola!
C'mon Leinster.
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So did you also study it for 14 years then?rooster wrote:I used the automatic machines in March and never even noticed it was in Irish, and my Irish is not very extensive at all, in fact I couldn't string a sentence together now.Oldschool wrote:It would appear I've touched a nerve.
Unfortunately the wrong nerve, it's the people organising the automation of the passport system in Dublin airport whose nerve needs to be touched.
Anyway it being the weekend that's in it, hopefully you'll all enjoy the occasion, be you here in Bilbao or elsewhere.
Ola!
C'mon Leinster.