Not yet but hopefully in the futureTrapperChamonix wrote:Cooneythecomedian wrote:tomthefan wrote:Who was the last top class scrum half out of leinster?
Scally
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Not yet but hopefully in the futureTrapperChamonix wrote:Cooneythecomedian wrote:tomthefan wrote:Who was the last top class scrum half out of leinster?
Scally
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And there was me thinking if they each played in a winning HCup team that might be a reasonable measure? or in the case on 1 of them having a HCup winners medal and being widely acclaimed as replacing the irreplaceable in Ulster.artaneboy wrote:Are they in the same class as Arron Smith and Murray? I don’t think so? So they can’t by definition be “top class.”TrapperChamonix wrote:I believe they all are "top class".wixfjord wrote:
There is very little between Cooney and JGP/McGrath. If we're not calling them 'top class' then he isn't either!
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Yeah- and you're such a delicate flower.blockhead wrote:Artaneboy could have an argument in an empty room.
It was more on an observation than a criticism.artaneboy wrote:Yeah- and you're such a delicate flower.blockhead wrote:Artaneboy could have an argument in an empty room.
It's forum for opinions and views Blockhead- not an echo chamber...
C’mon- it’s not just the top two SH though, there’s a slew of international 9s that are in the category ahead of them. All of the three guys are very good players. But they are far from bring Top Class currently. In the future; who knows?TrapperChamonix wrote:And there was me thinking if they each played in a winning HCup team that might be a reasonable measure? or in the case on 1 of them having a HCup winners medal and being widely acclaimed as replacing the irreplaceable in Ulster.artaneboy wrote:Are they in the same class as Arron Smith and Murray? I don’t think so? So they can’t by definition be “top class.”TrapperChamonix wrote: I believe they all are "top class".
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But if the measure is being the best or 2nd best in the world, then I agree with you.
But on that measure the Leinster team currently only has Furlong and Sexton who could claim to be Top Class.
he also needs to read posts before replying and misquoting. On the SH thing. Without getting into the Eamonn Dunphy 'great' versus 'good' comparisons, Luke McGrath is the No.1 SH, JGP is the No.2.blockhead wrote:Artaneboy could have an argument in an empty room.
Pffft. First scrumhalf, second scrumhalf, whatever.desperado wrote:he also needs to read posts before replying and misquoting. On the SH thing. Without getting into the Eamonn Dunphy 'great' versus 'good' comparisons, Luke McGrath is the No.1 SH, JGP is the No.2.blockhead wrote:Artaneboy could have an argument in an empty room.
There's no such thing as an empty room.blockhead wrote:Artaneboy could have an argument in an empty room.
Anthony Horgan, Ian Dowling John Kelly and Mick O'Driscoll all have Heineken cup medals, all good players but probably not top/world class. Of course, this is all very subjective and everyone has their own view but with regard to Leinster, we have 7 players who were Lions and add to that the likes of Van der Flier, Leavy, Ryan, Larmour, Ringrose, Lowe and maybe Conan who would all be in the frame for the Lions. You'd have to think that's a fair indicator. It's hard to see McGrath in that light at the moment though hopefully that will change and he will improve.TrapperChamonix wrote:And there was me thinking if they each played in a winning HCup team that might be a reasonable measure? or in the case on 1 of them having a HCup winners medal and being widely acclaimed as replacing the irreplaceable in Ulster.artaneboy wrote:Are they in the same class as Arron Smith and Murray? I don’t think so? So they can’t by definition be “top class.”TrapperChamonix wrote:
I believe they all are "top class".
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But if the measure is being the best or 2nd best in the world, then I agree with you.
But on that measure the Leinster team currently only has Furlong and Sexton who could claim to be Top Class.
Peg Leg wrote:Sorry, but conveyor belt of 9's me ballix. The phrase "Leinster conveyor belt of..." is a conditioning trope designed to soften the blow before the "... should move for the greater good" narrative.
We have 2 proven 9's and lot's of potential.
Who and how did I misquote? Specifically please.desperado wrote:he also needs to read posts before replying and misquoting. On the SH thing. Without getting into the Eamonn Dunphy 'great' versus 'good' comparisons, Luke McGrath is the No.1 SH, JGP is the No.2.blockhead wrote:Artaneboy could have an argument in an empty room.
Good ladcurates_egg wrote:Pffft. First scrumhalf, second scrumhalf, whatever.desperado wrote:he also needs to read posts before replying and misquoting. On the SH thing. Without getting into the Eamonn Dunphy 'great' versus 'good' comparisons, Luke McGrath is the No.1 SH, JGP is the No.2.blockhead wrote:Artaneboy could have an argument in an empty room.
So did ROG when reviewing the match on Virgin Media 1.mildlyinterested wrote:Thought Nick Mc was good off bench too.
Edit because apparently the swear filter doesn't catch everythingLeRouxIsPHat wrote:Cummiskey saying that Nick McCarthy is off to Munster next season.
For f*cks*ke...I'm disgusted by that. With respect to JGP who's developed really well over the last year and obviously would have expected to be an important player for us by the time he qualified, I absolute hate that we're losing a really talented local lad, and that we lose yet another player to Munster.
Been saying this for years but Munster should have gone for a project nine years ago, but yet again we're the ones who do the work for them.