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Re: Leinster v Ulster

Postby Oldschool » January 7th, 2019, 12:26 pm

backrower8 wrote:
hugonaut wrote:Deegan was prominent with and without the ball and completely outplayed Nick Timoney, who has been in good form for Ulster this season. Like a few other people, I would have preferred to see Doris get more time at blindside – Josh Murphy is a worker, but he's quite one-paced. It's tough to criticise a guy who does everything he's asked to do, but I'd like to see Deegan get the push at No8 AND keep Doris' rate of progression high.


So can we take it that, unlike Des Berry on independent.ie last week, you wouldn't be up for sending Deegan on loan anywhere?

He's not the only one who wouldn't be in favour of sending Deegan anywhere, any time.
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Re: Leinster v Ulster

Postby mildlyinterested » January 7th, 2019, 12:28 pm

backrower8 wrote:
hugonaut wrote:Deegan was prominent with and without the ball and completely outplayed Nick Timoney, who has been in good form for Ulster this season. Like a few other people, I would have preferred to see Doris get more time at blindside – Josh Murphy is a worker, but he's quite one-paced. It's tough to criticise a guy who does everything he's asked to do, but I'd like to see Deegan get the push at No8 AND keep Doris' rate of progression high.


So can we take it that, unlike Des Berry on independent.ie last week, you wouldn't be up for sending Deegan on loan anywhere?


who is? bar Berry?
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Re: Leinster v Ulster

Postby LeinsterLeader » January 7th, 2019, 12:32 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:
backrower8 wrote:
hugonaut wrote:Deegan was prominent with and without the ball and completely outplayed Nick Timoney, who has been in good form for Ulster this season. Like a few other people, I would have preferred to see Doris get more time at blindside – Josh Murphy is a worker, but he's quite one-paced. It's tough to criticise a guy who does everything he's asked to do, but I'd like to see Deegan get the push at No8 AND keep Doris' rate of progression high.


So can we take it that, unlike Des Berry on independent.ie last week, you wouldn't be up for sending Deegan on loan anywhere?


who is bar Berry?

Isn’t he the policeman in South Park? :shock:
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Re: Leinster v Ulster

Postby johng » January 7th, 2019, 12:43 pm

Didn't he have a coast in north Africa?
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Re: Leinster v Ulster

Postby fourthirtythree » January 7th, 2019, 12:49 pm

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Re: Leinster v Ulster

Postby backrower8 » January 7th, 2019, 2:12 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:
backrower8 wrote:
hugonaut wrote:Deegan was prominent with and without the ball and completely outplayed Nick Timoney, who has been in good form for Ulster this season. Like a few other people, I would have preferred to see Doris get more time at blindside – Josh Murphy is a worker, but he's quite one-paced. It's tough to criticise a guy who does everything he's asked to do, but I'd like to see Deegan get the push at No8 AND keep Doris' rate of progression high.


So can we take it that, unlike Des Berry on independent.ie last week, you wouldn't be up for sending Deegan on loan anywhere?


who is? bar Berry?


Do you think Berry really thinks that or was HE just writing an (unhelpful) click bait article over Christmas that went with the flow of general media commentary that for a month or so went along the lines of Deegan good but expendable while shinier-brighter, even younger (18months) Doris = BETTER a la Kieran Reid.... hype.... hype...etc"
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Re: Leinster v Ulster

Postby mildlyinterested » January 7th, 2019, 2:41 pm

Well Doris was playing ahead of him and given Deegan's profile and talent level it hardly takes a genius to think a move elsewhere would be good for him.

Hell most journalists think leinster should lose a lot of squad players as the province has "too much talent"
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Re: Leinster v Ulster

Postby backrower8 » January 7th, 2019, 3:06 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:Well Doris was playing ahead of him and given Deegan's profile and talent level it hardly takes a genius to think a move elsewhere would be good for him.

Hell most journalists think leinster should lose a lot of squad players as the province has "too much talent"


Well it takes a journalist at Xmas to write a click bait article about Deegan going anywhere because he is in a wee slump and Doris gets picked ahead of him for 2 games.

What do YOU think is best for Leinster and Deegan?

Come to think of it...should Doris go on loan after a poor starting game against Connacht and being overlooked for Munster and only benched for Connacht?! #mytonguefirmlyincheek
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Re: Leinster v Ulster

Postby johng » January 7th, 2019, 3:11 pm

hugonaut wrote:Josh Murphy is a worker, but he's quite one-paced. It's tough to criticise a guy who does everything he's asked to do, but I'd like to see Deegan get the push at No8 AND keep Doris' rate of progression high.

Given our always ongoing stream of back row talent do you think Murphy should move into the 2nd row? AFAIK he has played there a reasonable amount He is about 6'5"
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Re: Leinster v Ulster

Postby mildlyinterested » January 7th, 2019, 3:18 pm

johng wrote:
hugonaut wrote:Josh Murphy is a worker, but he's quite one-paced. It's tough to criticise a guy who does everything he's asked to do, but I'd like to see Deegan get the push at No8 AND keep Doris' rate of progression high.

Given our always ongoing stream of back row talent do you think Murphy should move into the 2nd row? AFAIK he has played there a reasonable amount He is about 6'5"


Murphy can't carry the weight required to be an effective scrummager at lock. And he played there fairly sparingly, if he could play the position at pro 14 level, he would have moved there already IMO.

Doris or Deegan should be play 6 ahead of him IMO, which may be a bit harsh but given limited minutes available to both seems the best use of the available resources.
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