Deegan-Doris-Josh Watch

[backrower8]

Doris (1m 93cm 106kg; 7 caps this season; 4 starts at 8; 3 as sub)
Deegan (1m 93cm & 109kg (doubt that) 11 season caps; 3 starts at 8; 2 at 6; 6 as sub)
Josh Murphy (1m 96cm &106 kg; 6 season caps, all at 6) stats to date this season:

Doris/ Deegan/ Murphy
Minutes 352/ 481/ 344
Tries 1 / 3 / 0
Try Assists 0 / 1 / 0
Carries 61/ 73 / 61
Metres 161/ 183 / 91
MperCarry 2.6/ 2.5/ 1.5
Clean Break 2/ 2 / 0
Passes 11/ 20 / 9
Offload 1/ 1 / 1
Turnover 2/ 3 / 1
T/o Against 4/ 4 / 5
Tackles 63/ 73 / 47
Missed Ts 3/ 4 / 2
Pens Against 2/ 5 / 3
Lineouts 12/ 8 / 7
L/o Steal 0/ 0 / 1

Who thinks Deegan is losing the battle and should be put on loan?

Looks pretty even between him & Doris to me. Deegan has X-factor in his hands/distribution. Needs a bit more power close in.

Josh Murphy had a return to form against Ulster but is not as much of a playmaker as the other two.

[ronk]

Josh Murphy isnt meant to be a playmaker. He's a good and useful player but suffers because of the dynamic other 2 who have naturally better highlights reels.

It's nice to have so much talent.

[mildlyinterested]

Murphy doesn't have the same talent level as Deegan/Doris. Which is no slight as they both are uber-talents in irish terms.

[Theleinsterlad]

Murphy is a 6 and hopefully will follow in the progression Ruddock has done, different skill set and grunt work to that if Doris and Deegan. I personally think That while the stats don’t clearly show it that Deegan is the better of the two between Doris and himself. deeg’s has a good couple of recent games and done key yards and ball handling skills that kept moves going to Leinster scoring tries.

Would be mad to let Deegan go

[mildlyinterested]

Murphy doesn't have capacity to be Ruddock, who can play all 3 backrow positions to a pro 14 level if not higher.

Doris should be groomed as Ruddock's successor IMO, with the ability to cover 8 too.

[suisse]

Some of Deegan's handling skills on Saturday were ridiculously good.

[leinster23]

Murphy doesn't have capacity to be Ruddock, who can play all 3 backrow positions to a pro 14 level if not higher.

Doris should be groomed as Ruddock's successor IMO, with the ability to cover 8 too.

I'd say much higher than Pro14 level. In another era (or if he was English) he'd have 60+ caps and could have been Ireland captain. Just unlucky to play at a time where the Irish backrow stocks have been at their all time peak.

[ronk]

Murphy doesn't have capacity to be Ruddock, who can play all 3 backrow positions to a pro 14 level if not higher.

Doris should be groomed as Ruddock's successor IMO, with the ability to cover 8 too.

I'd say much higher than Pro14 level. In another era (or if he was English) he'd have 60+ caps and could have been Ireland captain. Just unlucky to play at a time where the Irish backrow stocks have been at their all time peak.

Kinda like Quinlan and Easterby.

[hugonaut]

Caelan Doris - Rugby Players Ireland POTY.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2023/051 ... by-awards/

Incredibly hard-earned award this year – a successful test series in NZ and a Grand Slam, as well as wins over SA and Aus at home. Outstanding achievement.

[OTT]

You’ve done BR8 real dirty here hugo pulling up this thread, he was just looking out for a former alum. It would be like if someone pulled up the thread where the emperor needed new clothing or something like that where Harry was to replace Johnny 3 years ago. You’ve done him real dirty here

Congrats Caelan some season