Draw for H Cup / Champions Cup 2019

Oldschool · Post by **Oldschool** » January 13th, 2019, 2:30 pm

Exeter are going to get their TBP win against Castres.
Next week's game between Munster and Exeter is going to be the match of the round.
It's live on Virgin One and Channel 4.

blockhead · Post by **blockhead** » January 13th, 2019, 2:43 pm

Oldschool wrote:Exeter are going to get their TBP win against Castres.
Next week's game between Munster and Exeter is going to be the match of the round.
It's live on Virgin One and Channel 4.

Yeah a 4-0 or 5-1 win for Exeter would see them win the group.

Interesting stat. Exeter's win (pending) is the first time a Prem team wins a game v a non Prem team (apart form Saracens) since round 2 when Newcastle beat Montpellier.

wixfjord · Post by **wixfjord** » January 13th, 2019, 2:52 pm

Exeter are a good side and have gotten a good few guys back from injury since round 1.

Some serious X factor players in backline too.

Could be a cracker in Thomond.

Ruckedtobits · Post by **Ruckedtobits** » January 13th, 2019, 5:27 pm

Wins for Exeter, Sarries and Glasgow, all with bonus points, means that very little decided until next weekend. Sarries definitely through, even if Glasgow beat them in Sarries.

Only certainties from this week are who's out: Bath, Wasps, Castres, Gloucester, Cardiff, Lyon, Scarlets, Leicester, Toulon, Newcastle. That's five from the Premiership, three from Top 14 and two from Pro 14. In four Pools first plays second next weekend. Ten teams left but only 8 can qualify. Decent bet for anybody who can get all eight correct.

The ten teams in contention comprise:

* Five from Pro 14;
* Three from Top 14;
* Two from Premiership.

Conclusions, on the back of a postcard, should be sent to somewhere in Switzerland.

leinsterfan100 · Post by **leinsterfan100** » January 13th, 2019, 6:11 pm

And from our point of view, any sort of win will do to secure a home qf and a top 3 seeding.

If we're looking for a top 2 spot, we'll need Sarries or Racing to slip up.

Or alternatively, a Racing win without a BP and a BP win for us would likely see us go ahead of them in the rankings on points diff.

brotheroffrank · Post by **brotheroffrank** » January 13th, 2019, 7:39 pm

Re: Draw for H Cup / Champions Cup 2019
by leinsterfan100 » January 13th, 2019, 7:11 pm

And from our point of view, any sort of win will do to secure a home qf and a top 3 seeding.

If we're looking for a top 2 spot, we'll need Sarries or Racing to slip up.

Or alternatively, a Racing win without a BP and a BP win for us would likely see us go ahead of them in the rankings on points diff.

not that i disagree with you, perhaps i just see it differently...

Glasgow have the ability to beat Saracens....it was a low scoring game in round 1....and on 19 points at the moment Glasgow really have something to play for...not just to get through themselves, but a win (or additional bonus points) could avoid their quarter final being against the top seed at home...
Scarlets have the ability to beat Racing...there was only 1 point in it in round one...and Ulster showed that Racing are not as good as last year....

So rather than thinking of a "slip up" by the English or French...the Pro14 teams can do this on merit.....

We can just focus on winning on the Sunday...we will know what has gone on the previous day...

Oldschool · Post by **Oldschool** » January 13th, 2019, 8:09 pm

brotheroffrank wrote:
Re: Draw for H Cup / Champions Cup 2019
by leinsterfan100 » January 13th, 2019, 7:11 pm

And from our point of view, any sort of win will do to secure a home qf and a top 3 seeding.

If we're looking for a top 2 spot, we'll need Sarries or Racing to slip up.

Or alternatively, a Racing win without a BP and a BP win for us would likely see us go ahead of them in the rankings on points diff.
not that i disagree with you, perhaps i just see it differently...

Glasgow have the ability to beat Saracens....it was a low scoring game in round 1....and on 19 points at the moment Glasgow really have something to play for...not just to get through themselves, but a win (or additional bonus points) could avoid their quarter final being against the top seed at home...
Scarlets have the ability to beat Racing...there was only 1 point in it in round one...and Ulster showed that Racing are not as good as last year....

So rather than thinking of a "slip up" by the English or French...the Pro14 teams can do this on merit.....

We can just focus on winning on the Sunday...we will know what has gone on the previous day...

If I were in a position to offer Scarlets any advice in their endeavours against Racing I would suggest that they target Nakarawa and specifically not his offloading.
He invariably manages to get the offload away.
The problem is that while teams are trying to stop him offloading he makes even more yardage.
Therefore teams should be tackling him and stopping his momentum. This would also have the advantage of making the offload less impactful.

D4surfer · Post by **D4surfer** » January 13th, 2019, 10:45 pm

My tuppence

Current

1 Saracens 23
2 Racing 21
3 Leinster 20
4 Edinburgh 19
5 Munster 17
6 Glasgow 19
7 Ulster 18
8 Toulouse 17
-----------------
Montpellier 16
Exeter 13

Predicted

1 Saracens 28
2 Racing 26
3 Leinster 25
4 Munster 21
5 Montpellier 20
6 Ulster 23
7 Toulouse 22
8 Edinburgh 20
------------------
Glasgow 19
Exeter 13

QF’s

Saracens v Edinburgh
Racing v Toulouse
Leinster v Ulster
Munster v Monpellier

Angelsea Angst · Post by **Angelsea Angst** » January 13th, 2019, 11:28 pm

[quote="D4surfer"]My tuppence

Current

1 Saracens 23
2 Racing 21
3 Leinster 20
4 Edinburgh 19
5 Munster 17
6 Glasgow 19
7 Ulster 18
8 Toulouse 17
-----------------
Montpellier 16
Exeter 13

Predicted

1 Saracens 28
2 Racing 26
3 Leinster 25
4 Munster 21
5 Montpellier 20
6 Ulster 23
7 Toulouse 22
8 Edinburgh 20
------------------
Glasgow 19
Exeter 13

QF’s

Saracens v Edinburgh
Racing v Toulouse
Leinster v Ulster
Munster v Monpellier[/quote

Based on those QFs, I would predict the following SFs
Saracens v Munster
Leinster V Toulouse

Ruckedtobits · Post by **Ruckedtobits** » January 14th, 2019, 9:00 am

I'll be surprised, but delighted, if Ulster get a BP away to Leicester. Tigers may be out but they're playing at home and don't fear Ulster. Biggest game is Edinburgh v Montpelier where loser could miss out completely. Think Glasgow will get at least one point.

Oldschool · Post by **Oldschool** » January 14th, 2019, 9:46 am

Ruckedtobits wrote:I'll be surprised, but delighted, if Ulster get a BP away to Leicester. Tigers may be out but they're playing at home and don't fear Ulster. Biggest game is Edinburgh v Montpelier where loser could miss out completely. Think Glasgow will get at least one point.

As you say Edinburgh v Montpellier is the bigger.
Edinburgh lost by only 6 points away to Montpellier in the first round. They have the capacity to beat Montpellier and it'll be interesting to see what the bookies think.
I think Edinburgh will be favourites.
If Edinburgh win then Glasgow and Ulster are sorted.
It's very difficult to see Glasgow getting anything away to Saracens whereas Ulster are likely to get something at Leicester.
So
Saracens v Glasgow
Racing v Ulster
Leinster v Toulouse
Edinburgh v Munster

Leading to
Saracens v Munster
Racing v Leinster

Munster v Leinster

Leinster.

You read it here first.

Lar · Post by **Lar** » January 14th, 2019, 11:29 am

Oldschool wrote:
Ruckedtobits wrote:I'll be surprised, but delighted, if Ulster get a BP away to Leicester. Tigers may be out but they're playing at home and don't fear Ulster. Biggest game is Edinburgh v Montpelier where loser could miss out completely. Think Glasgow will get at least one point.
As you say Edinburgh v Montpellier is the bigger.
Edinburgh lost by only 6 points away to Montpellier in the first round. They have the capacity to beat Montpellier and it'll be interesting to see what the bookies think.
I think Edinburgh will be favourites.
If Edinburgh win then Glasgow and Ulster are sorted.
It's very difficult to see Glasgow getting anything away to Saracens whereas Ulster are likely to get something at Leicester.
So
Saracens v Glasgow
Racing v Ulster
Leinster v Toulouse
Edinburgh v Munster

Leading to
Saracens v Munster
Racing v Leinster

Munster v Leinster

Leinster.

You read it here first.

Two away semi final wins?
Long odds...

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footrush · Post by **footrush** » January 14th, 2019, 12:51 pm

Angelsea Angst wrote:
D4surfer wrote:My tuppence

Current

1 Saracens 23
2 Racing 21
3 Leinster 20
4 Edinburgh 19
5 Munster 17
6 Glasgow 19
7 Ulster 18
8 Toulouse 17
-----------------
Montpellier 16
Exeter 13

Predicted

1 Saracens 28
2 Racing 26
3 Leinster 25
4 Munster 21
5 Montpellier 20
6 Ulster 23
7 Toulouse 22
8 Edinburgh 20
------------------
Glasgow 19
Exeter 13

QF’s

Saracens v Edinburgh
Racing v Toulouse
Leinster v Ulster
Munster v Monpellier[/quote

Based on those QFs, I would predict the following SFs
Saracens v Munster
Leinster V Toulouse

If Racing get a home Semi Final wonder would it be in the old Parc Des Princes, I would imagine Stade des Frances would be unlikely ?.

Lar · Post by **Lar** » January 14th, 2019, 12:54 pm

They played their 'home' semi final Bordeaux last year I seem to recall.

footrush · Post by **footrush** » January 14th, 2019, 2:28 pm

Lar wrote:They played their 'home' semi final Bordeaux last year I seem to recall.

That’s right forgot about that !.

Blue not red blood · January 14th, 2019, 2:40 pm

Lets get our marching boots on so!!!!

We are undefeated in Bordeaux

footrush · Post by **footrush** » January 14th, 2019, 2:43 pm

Blue not red blood wrote:Lets get our marching boots on so!!!!

We are undefeated in Bordeaux

Yep loved that day !. Just provisionally booked somewhere in the center of the city for Apr 21st and 22nd on the off chance !. They would play it on a Sunday probably so the accommodation options are a bit limited it’s around Easter time !.

cormac · Post by **cormac** » January 14th, 2019, 2:43 pm

Blue not red blood wrote:Lets get our marching boots on so!!!!

We are undefeated in Bordeaux

This century.

Barry · Post by **Barry** » January 14th, 2019, 2:58 pm

cormac wrote:
Blue not red blood wrote:Lets get our marching boots on so!!!!

We are undefeated in Bordeaux
This century.

Like the sound of Easter Sunday in Bordeaux.

footrush · Post by **footrush** » January 14th, 2019, 3:39 pm

Barry wrote:
cormac wrote:
Blue not red blood wrote:Lets get our marching boots on so!!!!

We are undefeated in Bordeaux
This century.
Like the sound of Easter Sunday in Bordeaux.

Yep still some good deals on booking.com with free cancellation.