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Re: Schools Rugby 2018-19

Postby backrower8 » February 12th, 2019, 12:46 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:The Bank of Ireland Leinster Schools Senior Cup fixture between Blackrock College and St Michael’s College has been refixed for Monday, 25 February.

The game will take place in Energia Park at 3pm.

The initial fixture was due to be played on Sunday, 10 February but was postponed due to unforeseen circumstances.

The other three games in the Bank of Ireland Leinster Schools Senior Cup will be played this week.

Bank of Ireland Leinster Schools Senior Cup Second Round (All games 3pm in Energia Park)
Tuesday, 12 February – Gonzaga College v Terenure College
Wednesday, 13 February – Belvedere College v Newbridge College
Thursday, 14 February – Clongowes Wood College v CBC Monkstown
Monday, 25 February – Blackrock College v St Michael’s College


It was postponed due to an outbreak of mumps which is very unfortunate for all concerned - on health grounds mainly and from the point of view of the competition a distant second.

It knocks the scheduling and match preparations for both teams out of kilter, as well as whomever the winner plays in the semi-final.It may even see one team having to play 3 big matches in a shortened time frame and be disadvantaged relative to other teams that will be fresh. I think it is a manageable issue if they change the date of the final.

However, it seems this outbreak has gone beyond one school and is into Trinity and Maynooth among others. What happens if some of the other schools have outbreaks? Nobody wants to see a walkover.

What happens if Michael's have an outbreak close to the 25th Feb? Is there another 2 week deferral or do schools have to field those deemed to be healthy and let the fixture play out?

Disrupting sporting competitions is the least of the issues arising from what can only have have been caused by those parents who decided that the MMR is not for their children. It is a serious public health issue for the vulnerable and reckless parents should reflect on their actions.
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Re: Schools Rugby 2018-19

Postby TrapperChamonix » February 12th, 2019, 1:32 pm

The biggest disadvantage is if any / many of the rock team contracted Mumps. Even after a 2 week delay they'll be in poor physical shape.

As regards playing 3 big matches in a shorten time frame, I dont think thats a particular issue. In 2016 the Rock / Belvo QF was played on the 22nd Feb followed by the SF on 3 March and the Final on the 13th Mar. So assuming there is no further medical issues or there isn't a draw it, they can fit in this years QF & Final by the 17th Mar. Its the same time frame as 2016.
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Re: Schools Rugby 2018-19

Postby mildlyinterested » February 12th, 2019, 2:27 pm

Terenure College
Patsakorn Kidd(5th); Dan Byrne, Matthew McGettrick(5th), Henry Roberts, Conor McElwaine(4th); George Morgan, Luke McNamara; Levi Vaughan, Adam Dunne, Sam McCoy, Tom Cadell, Aaron Deegan; Charlie Hayes, Conor Hayes, Peter Larkin

Gonzaga
Conor Hennessy, Fergus O’hOisin, Frank O’Grady, Karl Morgan, Brian Barron(5th); Harry Colbert(5th), Jack Connolly: Henry Godson, Hugo Fitzgerald(5th), Ronan Shaw(5th), Liam Tyrell, Jack Coolican, Colm O’Briain, Tom Cullen(5th), Jack Barry
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Re: Schools Rugby 2018-19

Postby backrower8 » February 12th, 2019, 3:59 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:Terenure College
Patsakorn Kidd(5th); Dan Byrne, Matthew McGettrick(5th), Henry Roberts, Conor McElwaine(4th); George Morgan, Luke McNamara; Levi Vaughan, Adam Dunne, Sam McCoy, Tom Cadell, Aaron Deegan; Charlie Hayes, Conor Hayes, Peter Larkin

Gonzaga
Conor Hennessy, Fergus O’hOisin, Frank O’Grady, Karl Morgan, Brian Barron(5th); Harry Colbert(5th), Jack Connolly: Henry Godson, Hugo Fitzgerald(5th), Ronan Shaw(5th), Liam Tyrell, Jack Coolican, Colm O’Briain, Tom Cullen(5th), Jack Barry


Great work getting the 4/5/6th year breakdowns. Makes a difference at this level. Gonzaga have 4 x 5th years and 2x 4th years on the bench. only 1 6th year forwards. I think they will edge this match, but it will be tight.
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Re: Schools Rugby 2018-19

Postby TrapperChamonix » February 12th, 2019, 5:36 pm

Terenure have been unlucky with the draw in the last 5 years coming up against either Rock or Michaels in the 1st or 2nd round. There was definitely an opportunity for them to progress in this years competition.
Another strong Gonzaga team for the 3rd year in a row.
It really looks like there is a big 4 of Belvedere, Blackrock, Clongowes and Michaels. The next in the pecking order is Roscrea. Marys, Terenure and Gonzaga neck and neck after that.
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Re: Schools Rugby 2018-19

Postby mildlyinterested » February 13th, 2019, 10:24 am

Terenure & Marys should joining the league.

Gonzaga into their 2nd semi finals in a row.

Only seen the 1st half so far but was impressed by Gonzaga's 2, 8, 9 and 13. Both their 2nd rows were very good too.
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Re: Schools Rugby 2018-19

Postby mildlyinterested » February 13th, 2019, 10:30 am

Bank of Ireland Schools Junior Cup
CBS Naas 19 V 14 Gorey Community School
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Re: Schools Rugby 2018-19

Postby TrapperChamonix » February 13th, 2019, 10:52 am

mildlyinterested wrote:Terenure & Marys should joining the league.

Gonzaga into their 2nd semi finals in a row.

Only seen the 1st half so far but was impressed by Gonzaga's 2, 8, 9 and 13. Both their 2nd rows were very good too.


They went out 1st round last year to Belvedere in a close fought game 11 -10. They got to SF in 2017.


Looked very well drilled team and beat Terenure at the breakdown with very quick and aggressive rucking and no shortage of good poaches. Also high quality passing. I thought the 8 was the stand out player on the pitch.
I think Terenure will look back on that with regret. They had a much more physical pack but didn't use it, or when they did they didn't protect the ball at ruck. The 6 & 13 looked v good.
As in previous years when Gonzaga come up against the likes of Rock they may struggle physically up front. But if they get close to parity they can do damage.
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Re: Schools Rugby 2018-19

Postby mildlyinterested » February 13th, 2019, 12:57 pm

Right you are.

Michaels doing their Mocks the morning of the Rock game.
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Re: Schools Rugby 2018-19

Postby backrower8 » February 13th, 2019, 2:10 pm

Gonzaga 2016 team lost in the QFs against holders and eventual finalists Roscrea.

New coach since 2017, Declan Fassbender has taken things to a new level there. Original jump in rugby standards and structures came through Bobby Byrne a teacher, former Terenure & Blackrock club Captain and then Leinster/Irish schools coach and UCD coach/DoR .

Zaga have produced more pro players than any of Mary's, Belvedere and Nure in the last 10 years.

They are definitely a top 8 team now.

Roscrea will do well to stay in that group given their ongoing struggle with numbers. They were very game this year, but overpowered by Belvo.
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Re: Schools Rugby 2018-19

Postby mildlyinterested » February 13th, 2019, 9:49 pm

Soroka excellent today for Belvo at 8.
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Re: Schools Rugby 2018-19

Postby TrapperChamonix » February 14th, 2019, 8:52 am

mildlyinterested wrote:Soroka excellent today for Belvo at 8.


He was very unlucky last year to break his collar bone in the same game last year. Whether hes at 8 or 5, hes certainly a big talent. His brother Ivan is the prop for Clontarf AIL team.

Interesting to see Newbridge winger Conroy score an almost identical intercept try 2 years in a row against the same opposition.
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Re: Schools Rugby 2018-19

Postby mildlyinterested » February 14th, 2019, 9:05 am

Soroka, Grogan and Coleman are three potential academy players in that team.

Like what i've seen from Leonard too but will need to play a different position.

Shame Mulvainey missed yesterday with injury.
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Re: Schools Rugby 2018-19

Postby TrapperChamonix » February 14th, 2019, 5:57 pm

CWC 38 - 10 CBC


SF Draw
CWC v Zaga
Belvo v Rock / Michaels
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Re: Schools Rugby 2018-19

Postby mildlyinterested » February 15th, 2019, 10:01 am

watched 1st 30 mins of Clongowes/CBC

impressed by McMahon at TH for Clongowes, Gilheaney at 7 was good too.

While Power, Reynolds and Quinn are standout players. Quinn is a 4th year, so certainly a player to watch.
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Re: Schools Rugby 2018-19

Postby mildlyinterested » February 15th, 2019, 12:33 pm

Bank of Ireland Leinster Schools Senior Cup semi-final draw (Both games to be played at Energia Park with 3pm KO)
Tuesday, 5 March – Gonzaga College v Clongowes Wood College
Wednesday, 6 March – Belvedere College v Blackrock College or St Michael’s College
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Re: Schools Rugby 2018-19

Postby backrower8 » February 18th, 2019, 2:42 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:Bank of Ireland Leinster Schools Senior Cup semi-final draw (Both games to be played at Energia Park with 3pm KO)
Tuesday, 5 March – Gonzaga College v Clongowes Wood College
Wednesday, 6 March – Belvedere College v Blackrock College or St Michael’s College


Looks like they are still aiming for a 17 March Final. If that's the case, and if either Michael's or Rock get to the final it will be tough to have had just 1 match in 4 weeks and then play 3 in 3 weeks. Sure they are young enough to bounce back in terms of energy levels, but if there are any injuries of note then it is hard to plug the gap in that timeframe. Injuries will affect Michael's more being half the size as a school and already fielding just 6 x 6th years...I would say that of course...but thems the facts.
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Re: Schools Rugby 2018-19

Postby Ruckedtobits » February 21st, 2019, 11:40 pm

When are JCT fixtures?
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Re: Schools Rugby 2018-19

Postby brotheroffrank » February 21st, 2019, 11:45 pm

JCT 2nd Round

Tuesday, 26th February
Blackrock College v Terenure College

Wednesday, 27th February
Newbridge College v Clongowes Wood College

Thursday, 28th February
CBS Naas v Gonzaga College

Friday, 1st March
St Michael’s College v Presentation College Bray
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Re: Schools Rugby 2018-19

Postby mildlyinterested » February 22nd, 2019, 9:54 am

brotheroffrank wrote:JCT 2nd Round

Tuesday, 26th February
Blackrock College v Terenure College

Wednesday, 27th February
Newbridge College v Clongowes Wood College

Thursday, 28th February
CBS Naas v Gonzaga College

Friday, 1st March
St Michael’s College v Presentation College Bray


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