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Re: All Ireland League - Thread

Postby El Diablo » November 13th, 2017, 12:54 pm

scentofgunpowder wrote:
future international wrote:Mike Ross packing down in the front row in Ulster Bank League Division 2C games is a safety risk? Discuss.


One of my friends was playing against Malahide, he said Ross came off the bench and they refused to scrum against him.

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How did the ref work that out? What happened?
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Re: All Ireland League - Thread

Postby mildlyinterested » November 13th, 2017, 12:56 pm

how'd trinity get on at weekend?
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Re: All Ireland League - Thread

Postby El Diablo » November 13th, 2017, 1:27 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:how'd trinity get on at weekend?

cracking battle in terrible conditions. Marys off to a flyer; 15 3 up after 25 mins. Trinity tries either side of halftime and some heroic defense ultimately won it 15 18. Lots of emerging talent on show. Doris is a fabulous athlete, Conor Dean was good but missed a potential equalising kick. Jack Kelly came off the bench for Trinity in the 2nd half and did well, Silvester continued his great form and Richard Dunne got his 1st Trinity try bursting lose from a maul. But MOTM was Paddy Finlay, the Trinity hooker. He had an absolute stormer. I lost count of his carries, mostly getting well over the gain line, his darts were 100% I think, scored the equalising try after half time and won the relieving turnover after 6/7 minutes of Marys pounding the Trinity line at the death. Lunatic stuff. He was like a man possessed as he was in the win against Buccs 2 weks ago. I know he has played some Leinster A but he definitely warrants a closer look from the Leinster coaches on current form.
Great match just a pity about the weather and the small crowd. A roaring fire and great hospitality in the bar afterwards made up for the damp :D
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Re: All Ireland League - Thread

Postby mildlyinterested » November 13th, 2017, 1:54 pm

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mildlyinterested wrote:how'd trinity get on at weekend?

cracking battle in terrible conditions. Marys off to a flyer; 15 3 up after 25 mins. Trinity tries either side of halftime and some heroic defense ultimately won it 15 18. Lots of emerging talent on show. Doris is a fabulous athlete, Conor Dean was good but missed a potential equalising kick. Jack Kelly came off the bench for Trinity in the 2nd half and did well, Silvester continued his great form and Richard Dunne got his 1st Trinity try bursting lose from a maul. But MOTM was Paddy Finlay, the Trinity hooker. He had an absolute stormer. I lost count of his carries, mostly getting well over the gain line, his darts were 100% I think, scored the equalising try after half time and won the relieving turnover after 6/7 minutes of Marys pounding the Trinity line at the death. Lunatic stuff. He was like a man possessed as he was in the win against Buccs 2 weks ago. I know he has played some Leinster A but he definitely warrants a closer look from the Leinster coaches on current form.
Great match just a pity about the weather and the small crowd. A roaring fire and great hospitality in the bar afterwards made up for the damp :D


thanks for the report. :happy clapper:

how's the scrum battle go? Byrne/Aungier?
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Re: All Ireland League - Thread

Postby El Diablo » November 13th, 2017, 2:15 pm

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El Diablo wrote:
mildlyinterested wrote:how'd trinity get on at weekend?

cracking battle in terrible conditions. Marys off to a flyer; 15 3 up after 25 mins. Trinity tries either side of halftime and some heroic defense ultimately won it 15 18. Lots of emerging talent on show. Doris is a fabulous athlete, Conor Dean was good but missed a potential equalising kick. Jack Kelly came off the bench for Trinity in the 2nd half and did well, Silvester continued his great form and Richard Dunne got his 1st Trinity try bursting lose from a maul. But MOTM was Paddy Finlay, the Trinity hooker. He had an absolute stormer. I lost count of his carries, mostly getting well over the gain line, his darts were 100% I think, scored the equalising try after half time and won the relieving turnover after 6/7 minutes of Marys pounding the Trinity line at the death. Lunatic stuff. He was like a man possessed as he was in the win against Buccs 2 weks ago. I know he has played some Leinster A but he definitely warrants a closer look from the Leinster coaches on current form.
Great match just a pity about the weather and the small crowd. A roaring fire and great hospitality in the bar afterwards made up for the damp :D


thanks for the report. :happy clapper:

how's the scrum battle go? Byrne/Aungier?

Forgot about him. He is not starting for Marys. In fairness the 2 starting props did well and had slightly the better of Byrne and Bollard. Aungier did come on in the 2nd half but I dont have much to report I'm afraid. Joe Byrne had to come back on for Trinity after being subbed earlier to shore up the scrum.
http://dufc.ie/trinity-dig-out-win-in-the-rain/
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Re: All Ireland League - Thread

Postby mildlyinterested » November 13th, 2017, 2:22 pm

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Forgot about him. He is not starting for Marys. In fairness the 2 starting props did well and had slightly the better of Byrne and Bollard. Aungier did come on in the 2nd half but I dont have much to report I'm afraid. Joe Byrne had to come back on for Trinity after being subbed earlier to shore up the scrum.
http://dufc.ie/trinity-dig-out-win-in-the-rain/


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Re: All Ireland League - Thread

Postby El Diablo » November 14th, 2017, 5:09 pm

Some great tries from the October try of the Month....
https://twitter.com/IrishRugby/status/926098162493853697
I didnt here of a winner being selected.
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Re: All Ireland League - Thread

Postby Ruckedtobits » May 6th, 2018, 4:52 pm

All Ireland League Final and the IRFU allow yet another total anomaly when the only full-time professional player wins the man-of -the-match award against the amateurs. No fault of Peter Dooley but this makes a nonsense of the IRFU regulation bannings payments to players (Regulation 6).

Club competitions should be for amateur players, not professional players recruited to particular clubs by professional Branch officials
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Re: All Ireland League - Thread

Postby ormond lad » May 6th, 2018, 6:09 pm

Ruckedtobits wrote:All Ireland League Final and the IRFU allow yet another total anomaly when the only full-time professional player wins the man-of -the-match award against the amateurs. No fault of Peter Dooley but this makes a nonsense of the IRFU regulation bannings payments to players (Regulation 6).

Club competitions should be for amateur players, not professional players recruited to particular clubs by professional Branch officials
No it doesnt a make a nonsense of reg 6. Club competitions should have pro players involved. We dont and shouldnt have a full tier of A level games in between the AIL and the Pro14. Pro players need to be involved at this level
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Re: All Ireland League - Thread

Postby blockhead » May 6th, 2018, 8:00 pm

Tough game, with the perfect conditions you would think there would not be so many knock-ons.
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Re: All Ireland League - Thread

Postby the spoofer » May 8th, 2018, 10:25 am

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Ruckedtobits wrote:All Ireland League Final and the IRFU allow yet another total anomaly when the only full-time professional player wins the man-of -the-match award against the amateurs. No fault of Peter Dooley but this makes a nonsense of the IRFU regulation bannings payments to players (Regulation 6).

Club competitions should be for amateur players, not professional players recruited to particular clubs by professional Branch officials
No it doesnt a make a nonsense of reg 6. Club competitions should have pro players involved. We dont and shouldnt have a full tier of A level games in between the AIL and the Pro14. Pro players need to be involved at this level


100% agree although Donal Lenihan going on about how Dooley probably grew up with his team mates :D :D :D
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Re: All Ireland League - Thread

Postby lummix » May 26th, 2018, 9:31 am

Ruckedtobits wrote:All Ireland League Final and the IRFU allow yet another total anomaly when the only full-time professional player wins the man-of -the-match award against the amateurs. No fault of Peter Dooley but this makes a nonsense of the IRFU regulation bannings payments to players (Regulation 6).

Club competitions should be for amateur players, not professional players recruited to particular clubs by professional Branch officials


What needs to happen is a new AIL with one league of 10 teams that is semi pro and includes the fringe squad players of the provinces. The rest of the teams should go back to provincial leagues with an all Ireland cup. The AIL has killed and bankrupted so many clubs in ireland and needs to be reformed.
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Re: All Ireland League - Thread

Postby Armchair » July 12th, 2018, 2:15 pm

Ruckedtobits wrote:All Ireland League Final and the IRFU allow yet another total anomaly when the only full-time professional player wins the man-of -the-match award against the amateurs. No fault of Peter Dooley but this makes a nonsense of the IRFU regulation bannings payments to players (Regulation 6).

Club competitions should be for amateur players, not professional players recruited to particular clubs by professional Branch officials


You have no clue of how Reg 6 works with that statement, All AIL semi finalissts had pro players involved which is within the rules once they play the required amount of qualifying games. Most 1a teams would have players on development or academy contracts and less regularly pro contracts playing for them on a few occasions thru out the season depending on the provinces requirements if they want or feel they need extra games. Dooley was only on the bench for Leinster A last year plenty of starters played some AIL last year. Club rugby was a benefit to their progression and match fitness

So big changes being proposed for season 2019/20 what sems clear is that both 1a & 1b will be an 8 team leaguewith 1a based on the top 8 finishers of this upcoming season and 1b then being adjusted to make sure each province has at least two representative teams across both divisions so plenty of heated discussions ahead. I would as was previously mentioned abve pagree that a 10 team format works best
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Re: All Ireland League - Thread

Postby Ruckedtobits » August 8th, 2018, 8:55 am

So, after weeks of discussion within the Province and meetings with IRFU representatives David Nucifora and Scott Walker, the IRFU Director for Domestic Rugby, Leinster Club rugby rejected the current IRFU proposals to re-structure the All Ireland League to try to replace the game time lost with the demise of the B&I Cup.

The Leinster decision will be welcomed by Ulster Clubs who also feel that the Clubs competition was being manipulated to solve a professional game problem. Opinions in Munster seem more diverse.

Clubs need regular All-Ireland competition to run throughout the Season providing spectacle and opportunity for Club supporters, with derby games scheduled to avoid big TV sports competition. Club players don't want an influx of professional players just for match day, without them having any involvement in Squad training and preparation. Club players and Coaches want team members, not guest players 'doing their duty'.

Not an unreasonable outlook from amateur players who work really hard to fit their sport into a working life and achieve high standards week in week out for their Clubs and supporters.

So back to the drawing board with both sides having a clearer idea of what's wanted but maybe also, what's possible.
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Re: All Ireland League - Thread

Postby mildlyinterested » August 8th, 2018, 8:56 am

Ruckedtobits wrote:So, after weeks of discussion within the Province and meetings with IRFU representatives David Nucifora and Scott Walker, the IRFU Director for Domestic Rugby, Leinster Club rugby rejected the current IRFU proposals to re-structure the All Ireland League to try to replace the game time lost with the demise of the B&I Cup.

The Leinster decision will be welcomed by Ulster Clubs who also feel that the Clubs competition was being manipulated to solve a professional game problem. Opinions in Munster seem more diverse.

Clubs need regular All-Ireland competition to run throughout the Season providing spectacle and opportunity for Club supporters, with derby games scheduled to avoid big TV sports competition. Club players don't want an influx of professional players just for match day, without them having any involvement in Squad training and preparation. Club players and Coaches want team members, not guest players 'doing their duty'.

Not an unreasonable outlook from amateur players who work really hard to fit their sport into a working life and achieve high standards week in week out for their Clubs and supporters.

So back to the drawing board with both sides having a clearer idea of what's wanted but maybe also, what's possible.


Good to hear.
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Re: All Ireland League - Thread

Postby the spoofer » August 8th, 2018, 12:26 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:
Ruckedtobits wrote:So, after weeks of discussion within the Province and meetings with IRFU representatives David Nucifora and Scott Walker, the IRFU Director for Domestic Rugby, Leinster Club rugby rejected the current IRFU proposals to re-structure the All Ireland League to try to replace the game time lost with the demise of the B&I Cup.

The Leinster decision will be welcomed by Ulster Clubs who also feel that the Clubs competition was being manipulated to solve a professional game problem. Opinions in Munster seem more diverse.

Clubs need regular All-Ireland competition to run throughout the Season providing spectacle and opportunity for Club supporters, with derby games scheduled to avoid big TV sports competition. Club players don't want an influx of professional players just for match day, without them having any involvement in Squad training and preparation. Club players and Coaches want team members, not guest players 'doing their duty'.

Not an unreasonable outlook from amateur players who work really hard to fit their sport into a working life and achieve high standards week in week out for their Clubs and supporters.

So back to the drawing board with both sides having a clearer idea of what's wanted but maybe also, what's possible.


Good to hear.


I second that. Lads training for weeks only to be dropped for a lad out of the academy.
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