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Re: Munster 2017 -2018

Postby offshorerules » August 8th, 2018, 2:22 pm

As I'm at work I only had time at lunch for a quick bit of research. Interestingly 2017's Health Department Spend was broken down by region. Out of a total spend of 9.7 billion 2.86 was spend in the combined Dublin regions which I know includes areas such as Bray so I assume Wicklow and therefore other adjoining counties. That according to my maths is 29.48%. Nowhere near being proportionate to the population.
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Re: Munster 2017 -2018

Postby tomthefan » August 8th, 2018, 2:41 pm

I'm not sure what proportion you think it should be but there are a number of factors that are likely at play.
You still need a gp in leitrim within a reasonable distance of where people live plus hospital and ambulance services.
You cannot achieve the same economies of scale as in a city.
Older people are heavier consumers of health services.
Young people tend to drift to the city while older people in the city often cash in their property and retire somewhere
coastal and cheaper.
Dublin is more affluent and people there are more likely to access private health care, Mater , beacon, blackrock.
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Re: Munster 2017 -2018

Postby Peg Leg » August 8th, 2018, 3:41 pm

domhnallj wrote:Anyway, on the distribution of resources and in order to give the Munster lads (another) dig-out, we could resurrect the fifth ancient Provence. The downside is that this would give us a provence with about one county in it, on the plus side it would mean that Meath wouldn't be in Leinster.
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Re: Munster 2017 -2018

Postby Peg Leg » August 8th, 2018, 3:42 pm

tomthefan wrote:
mildlyinterested wrote:Jeremy Loughman(Leinster Academy)
Eoghan Clarke(Leinster Sub Academy)
Tadgh Beirne(Leinster Academy)
Conor Oliver(Leinster Sub Academy)
James Hart(Leinster Underage)
Ian Keatley(Leinster Academy)
Joey Carbery(Leinster Senior)
Andrew Conway(Leinster Senior)


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I think the Conway move has been a success for everyone
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Re: Munster 2017 -2018

Postby janeymac08 » August 8th, 2018, 3:43 pm

offshorerules wrote:As I'm at work I only had time at lunch for a quick bit of research. Interestingly 2017's Health Department Spend was broken down by region. Out of a total spend of 9.7 billion 2.86 was spend in the combined Dublin regions which I know includes areas such as Bray so I assume Wicklow and therefore other adjoining counties. That according to my maths is 29.48%. Nowhere near being proportionate to the population.


Here is the breakdown of the HSE. Dun Laoghaire and Dublin SE are actually in the Wicklow Region, not the other way around.

The 2.86 bn is for CH09 - with a pop. of 621,216. The spend on the rest of the country (pop. of 3,746,356) is 6.84 bn. Roughly a quarter of the population is getting 1/3rd of the spend.

CHO2: Galway, Roscommon, Mayo (population 453,413)
CHO3: Clare, Limerick, North Tipperary (population 385,172)
CHO4: Cork, Kerry (population 689,750)
CHO5: South Tipperary, Carlow, Kilkenny, Waterford, Wexford (population 511,070)
CHO6: Wicklow, Dun Laoghaire, Dublin South East (population 381,882)
CHO7: Kildare, West Wicklow, Dublin West, Dublin South City, Dublin South West (population 706,766)
CHO8: Laois, Offaly, Longford, Westmeath, Louth, Meath (population 618,303)
CHO9: Dublin North, Dublin North Central, Dublin North West (population 621,216)

https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/publica ... s-2016.pdf
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Re: Munster 2017 -2018

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Re: Munster 2017 -2018

Postby paddyor » August 8th, 2018, 10:33 pm

Peg Leg wrote:
domhnallj wrote:Anyway, on the distribution of resources and in order to give the Munster lads (another) dig-out, we could resurrect the fifth ancient Provence. The downside is that this would give us a provence with about one county in it, on the plus side it would mean that Meath wouldn't be in Leinster.
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Re: Munster 2017 -2018

Postby harblstuff » August 9th, 2018, 4:45 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:Jeremy Loughman(Leinster Academy)
Eoghan Clarke(Leinster Sub Academy)
Tadgh Beirne(Leinster Academy)
Conor Oliver(Leinster Sub Academy)
James Hart(Leinster Underage)
Ian Keatley(Leinster Academy)
Joey Carbery(Leinster Senior)
Andrew Conway(Leinster Senior)


CJ Stander (South Africa)
Arno Botha (South Africa)
Chris Cloete (South Africa)
Jean Kleyn (South Africa)
Jaco Taute (South Africa)
Rhys Marshall (New Zealand)
Tyler Bleyendaal (New Zealand)
Ciaran Parker (England)
Michael Haley (England)

Does Munster even bother developing anyone any more?
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Re: Munster 2017 -2018

Postby janeymac08 » August 9th, 2018, 10:39 pm

You forgot:

Sammy Arnold (England)
Alex Wootton (England)
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Re: Munster 2017 -2018

Postby blockhead » August 9th, 2018, 10:47 pm

harblstuff wrote:
mildlyinterested wrote:Jeremy Loughman(Leinster Academy)
Eoghan Clarke(Leinster Sub Academy)
Tadgh Beirne(Leinster Academy)
Conor Oliver(Leinster Sub Academy)
James Hart(Leinster Underage)
Ian Keatley(Leinster Academy)
Joey Carbery(Leinster Senior)
Andrew Conway(Leinster Senior)


CJ Stander (South Africa)
Arno Botha (South Africa)
Chris Cloete (South Africa)
Jean Kleyn (South Africa)
Jaco Taute (South Africa)
Rhys Marshall (New Zealand)
Tyler Bleyendaal (New Zealand)
Ciaran Parker (England)
Michael Haley (England)

Does Munster even bother developing anyone any more?


Add to that
Chris Farrell (Ulster)
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Re: Munster 2017 -2018

Postby johng » August 10th, 2018, 9:42 am

And Sammy Arnold

A few more saffers in the academy too I think
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Re: Munster 2017 -2018

Postby deco » August 10th, 2018, 10:15 am

Poor man's Racing Metro.

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Re: Munster 2017 -2018

Postby mildlyinterested » August 10th, 2018, 10:19 am

Two saffers in the academy too. :lol:
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Re: Munster 2017 -2018

Postby tomthefan » August 10th, 2018, 10:29 am

Even with the stench of your narrow-mindedness and xenophobia, I can still smell your fear!
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Re: Munster 2017 -2018

Postby mildlyinterested » August 10th, 2018, 10:35 am

tomthefan wrote:Even with the stench of your narrow-mindedness and xenophobia, I can still smell your fear!


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Re: Munster 2017 -2018

Postby deco » August 10th, 2018, 1:12 pm

tomthefan wrote:Even with the stench of your narrow-mindedness and xenophobia, I can still smell your fear!


You need to start supporting a proper team.
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Re: Munster 2017 -2018

Postby fourthirtythree » August 10th, 2018, 2:57 pm

Thing is the IRFU, like Munster supporters, won't really care. They'll see Carbery, Beirne, Arnold, and Darrell in an Ireland squad with (Munster) beside their names and go "job done".

I don't think they'll care that they haven't produced anyone since O'Mahony.

Nordi will help balance Ulster's ledger for th IRFU also. I mean I haven't seen a huge amount of self awareness up north that they have produced one forward since Best...
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Re: Munster 2017 -2018

Postby mildlyinterested » August 10th, 2018, 3:11 pm

Iain Henderson and Stephen Ferris.
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Re: Munster 2017 -2018

Postby tomthefan » August 10th, 2018, 3:36 pm

deco wrote:
tomthefan wrote:Even with the stench of your narrow-mindedness and xenophobia, I can still smell your fear!


You need to start supporting a proper team.


This is Munster, Deco.
Down here we don't look in the paper one day and say "Leinster are going well, you know what, I think I might pop along, whatto?!"
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Re: Munster 2017 -2018

Postby deco » August 10th, 2018, 3:54 pm

tomthefan wrote:This is Munster, Deco.
Down here we don't look in the paper one day and say "Leinster are going well, you know what, I think I might pop along, whatto?!"


Well you do, actually. If attendances are anything to go by.

Again, what Munster have changed to improve their production line of talent - at least that would be a start. Otherwise they'll remain a poor man's Racing Metro. A joke of a team.
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